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The Art of SBA Lending

Feb 29, 2024

Join us for our newest episode with Jim Mueller, BDO at Celtic Bank and highly deserving recipient of last years “BDO of the Year” award.

Ray and Jim have a great conversation about achieving success and caring deeply about the process from somebody who has been on both sides of the table.

In this episode we...


Feb 22, 2024

In this episode we interview Phil Johnson, Founder and CEO of the Master of Business Leadership program for employees and executives. Listen in as Ray and Phil get into the majorly important topic of emotional intelligence. What it is, why it’s important, and it’s current role in corporate America.

Covering the...


Feb 15, 2024

Serious Episode- Sorry

It’s Jared Johnson of First Internet back on the podcast this week! $100+mm years, content creation, closers, authenticity and business acquisitions, we’re talking about it all!

Learn what kind of sacrifice, dedication, and value-add is needed to earn the spot of a top producer right...


Feb 8, 2024

In this episode we bring you a LIVE panel discussion from The BDO Retreat in Miami!

Join us for a panel discussion with top producing BDO's: Dennis Wagner, First National Bank, Ryan Kroge, First Internet Bank, Shane Pierson, Grasshopper Bank, and our host, Ray Drew.

This episode is all about achieving success,...


Feb 1, 2024

Welcome to Part 2 of our State of Small Business Panel on The Art of SBA Lending Podcast with William "Bill" Woodard, Chief Credit Officer at T Bank, Jordan Hallam, Director of Government Guaranteed Lending at SouthState Bank, Nick Roach, President and CEO of Stone Bank.

In this episode we cover which industries are...